|Thoughts on a new feature?
||[Mar. 29th, 2002|06:51 pm]
We've had this idea we've been kicking around for a while, and we thought we'd get some feedback from this community, because if/when we do add it, it will be a paid feature.|
Basically we want to introduce individual journal statistics, complete with referral stats and unique page views. This could also include statistics that would show you how many people have linked to a specific journal entry of yours, or who have linked to you in one of their journal entries.
Keeping in mind that we won't:
- Show you logged in viewers, because of privacy issues that could incur;
- Show you IP addresses, because they don't reveal any useful information;
What features would you like to see in a LiveJournal stats tracker?
2002-03-29 03:51 pm (UTC)
Some knowledge of IP addresses could provide "useful" information: knowing the first few octects could let you deduce what country your viewers are coming from. Maybe we could just hide the last one for privacy?
or maybe get the server to figure that stuff out and keep track
that way privacy won't be the same issue
I agree. I have a free stat tracker on my journal now that I use primarily to scan for any 134.173.x.x's (people at the colleges I work for). It's very useful information to me, especially since I can tell by the IP whether they're a student (okay to read my journal), faculty (okay to read my journal) or staff/coworker (stay the fuck away from my journal). So, yeah, not having IP's displayed for privacy reasons is one thing, but I disagree with the statement that they don't reveal any useful information.
I don't get the privacy issue. Like you said you have, there are websites and programs that provide the IP for you, and if you have IP logging enabled in your comments on LJ you can get IP numbers, so what's the difference?
Exactly. Since there's already an IP logging option for comments, I don't see why not to include it in stats.
2002-03-29 04:01 pm (UTC)
What level of privacy?
With even just three octets, you can still determine someone's ISP, right? When you have a limited amount of people reading your journal (say, less than 20), it becomes rather trivial to match ISPs to LJ accounts. It's even easier with cable/DSL IPs, since they often have general city/state information available.
but I'd like the country they list in their LJ info...
I like knowing ip/which isp they use as well. I had such a tracker on my old journal, and I used that information to get some idea how many regulars I had, and whether or not other people from my college (which has static ips) were reading my journal, and if so how many.
Most people probably don't see a need for knowing someone's ip but in the past I did.
There was this person who was harassing my journal first thru the LJ user name and then when i banned her from commenting she started using the Anonymous feature (which i have since disabled). My point is i wouldn't have known if it was the same person if i didn't see the IP. I was able to compare it to their IP in IRC. I know this is probably a rare case and people are going to say to turn off Anonymous postings (which I already said i did) but the things that were said needed to be confronted. If it wasn't for being able to see the IP i wouldn't have known who it was really. And honestly, I'd like to know if their still reading my journal so I can know if they're still reading it.
BTW... i'm considering using the "friends only" option where people have to be on my friend's list to read my journal... can someone tell me if they have ME on their friend's list and i don't have them on mine if they would still be able to read my journal?
The IP address is something I have been wondering about since I started LJ about a week ago. To be honest, it was almost disappointing limited tracking was not available. I know you can get a lot of stats from free tracking progs but they are all java-based (and not usable here). If someone wants to know more than the IP, they can go to arin.net or a public tracert gateway and find out country, ISP, etc. But the IP makes a good gauge of usage for each LJ user and it may even make for a good demographics tool for LJ itself.
The only downside I see if the database(s) required for storing the data. It could either be a central storage model run by LJ (more admins needed) or a flat file dumped to the directory of each LJ user and available for viewing by the account holder. The latter leave the administration up to the LJ user but it might make for increased storage use.
Either way, I am all for IP tracking.
I am also for ip tracking. I can use them to tell whether the viewer is coming from school, back home, etc.