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Thoughts on a new feature? [Mar. 29th, 2002|06:51 pm]
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We've had this idea we've been kicking around for a while, and we thought we'd get some feedback from this community, because if/when we do add it, it will be a paid feature.

Basically we want to introduce individual journal statistics, complete with referral stats and unique page views. This could also include statistics that would show you how many people have linked to a specific journal entry of yours, or who have linked to you in one of their journal entries.

Keeping in mind that we won't:

  • Show you logged in viewers, because of privacy issues that could incur;

  • Show you IP addresses, because they don't reveal any useful information;

What features would you like to see in a LiveJournal stats tracker?

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[User Picture]From: mauracelt
2002-03-29 06:59 pm (UTC)
Those sound great! What about a hit counter for the journal in general? A counter on the bio page kind of thing.
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[User Picture]From: dstroy
2002-03-29 07:15 pm (UTC)
There's one feature I've been interested in and this may be relevant to what you're describing:
There is currently no way to see if anyone has marked any of *your* journal entries as "memorable". It would be really nice to know if any posts I make are bookmarked as such, which posts are marked memorable, and by whom.
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[User Picture]From: zzrg
2002-03-29 07:15 pm (UTC)
I think it would detract from LiveJournal. I can see the popularity contests starting and I think that type of thing creates insincerity. There are enough people that are trying to be as witty and clever and false as possible. I think the concept of stats is destuctive to the concept of on line journaling. No Stats. My ego does not need them.
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From: ibrad
2002-03-29 07:50 pm (UTC)
Maybe some peoples' "egos" or lack thereof do need stats... and I didn't even think of that until you brought it up. I've always been interested in statistics about who is reading my personal thoughts, using things I have made, where they are from, who is linking to me, etc etc. It's interesting, and useful. That's why there are so many web stats/logs type programs and implementations, and why they are so popular.

If I had a free account.. I wouldn't pay $25 to get a slightly shorter url, or to upload more user icons I'd just forget about. And even customizing my journal wouldn't be worth the money, when there are such nice styles and mood icon sets available (and you can customize some things anyway, without a paid account). But statistics would be well worth it... I'd love to have all of that knowledge. I like to know things.

Food for thought, I guess.
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[User Picture]From: bandicoot
2002-03-29 07:16 pm (UTC)

Admittedly off topic, but...

I'm not that interested in stats, and I'm sure whatever is decided on will be fine with me. However, there are several things I'd like to see that might be good paid user features.

- 1. Be able to force a flat display of paged comment displays like this one. Paged displays were a major step forward for those of us on dialups that would completely choke on posts with hundreds of comments, but having to open countless new windows to read all the little threads on each page is maddening.

- 2. The ability to include all comments when exporting a month's worth of journal entries to CSV or XML format.
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[User Picture]From: emmavescence
2002-03-29 08:37 pm (UTC)

Re: Admittedly off topic, but...

ahhhh yes. the threads annoy me, and i haven't used the journal export thing because there's just no point without the comments.

/me would like
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From: scientaestubiqu
2002-03-29 10:42 pm (UTC)

I'd also like... the average posts per day statistic (n/t)

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[User Picture]From: xial
2002-03-29 07:40 pm (UTC)


I'd find it totally useless to have that, in all honesty.

what'd be really nice is to be able to make entries via email, which'd help out those of us who can't find a decent ISP or only have one phone line, yet want to make an entry.

and before any of you can suggest "get a client!!" -
You *do* need to remember, these clients can't open unless you're connected to the net.
And assuming i connected long enough to do that, what happens each time I reboot, or log off of my desktop?
Another run out of my room, to switch the phone jacks, dial up again, just to get the client open, disconnect, run out and switch back, and then I can type up an entry.

what a hassle, ne?

I also mean true entry via email, not entry in the manner of how comments are handled via email.

(and yes, i'd like to see comments handled this way, as well, too.)

well, that's my $2.

  - Xial
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From: mdiwench
2002-03-29 07:42 pm (UTC)


I have to say, I agree, logging the IP address can give some useful information. But, showing the referring page the user used would be useful.
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From: ibrad
2002-03-29 07:45 pm (UTC)

Here's what I would like to see.

Great idea... I've been waiting for this a long time. I'd like to see monthly statistics for:
  • Unique pageviews per style (or default if user has no styles)
  • Total pageviews, same
  • Referral statistics
  • Specialized search engine referral statistics, singled out, such as google searches that have referred to your journal, and what the searched for terms were
  • At least the first 3 digits of IP addresses, because they DO give plenty of useful information... demographic info such as location, organization type, ISP (and therefore type of user), as well as how much *you* use your own journal (for instance if 24.3.243.* is like 99% of all pageviews, and your IP is in that class.. it's most likely all you reading your journal.).
  • Which entries of yours are others' memories, and how many people have said entries as entries. You might even link to what user has said entry or entries as memories, if it is public (it's public anyway...).
  • Pretty graphs for some things, like Webalizer has (maybe)
  • <lj user=...> usage statistics (how many YOU have linked to in the month, how many times you have been linked to, possibly by whom, etc).. another maybe, but it sure would be interesting
  • Userpicture usage, what userpictures you use the most, etc?
  • Total bandwidth usage for your journal and all parts of it for the month (I wonder how big it would be.. for normal users, for 'popular' people like yourself, brad, etc)
  • If you have a mood icon set, or public style, who is using them (this might require a little help linking mood icon sets to users on the developer side)... I've been asking for that forever :)
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From: ibrad
2002-03-29 07:54 pm (UTC)
Also, I'd like to see browser ($USER_AGENT) statistics! This would be invaluable for those of us who make custom styles, it would tell what browsers, versions, and platforms people are using... thus we'd know what to test it on. Plus it would just be cool for us non-Windroids. :)
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[User Picture]From: tsutton
2002-03-30 12:25 am (UTC)
Yeah, I second this.
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From: ibrad
2002-03-29 07:56 pm (UTC)
Oh yes, and, pardon my flood of comments (hehe), but I'd also like to suggest some way of seeing the users who make the most comments, historically and monthly, in your journal! I wonder who it would be.. :D
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[User Picture]From: 1485squares
2002-03-29 07:58 pm (UTC)

yeah... good idea!

It would be so very cool to know the geographical area from which comments & voyeurs are from. I have a counter at my LJ, but it is not nearly specific enough. Not the whole ISP is necessary--- but enough that I can see if my neighbor is reading.... ya know?

Sending LJ junkie very pink {{hugs}}
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[User Picture]From: aerojad
2002-03-29 08:07 pm (UTC)
i think a hit counter with referal stats would be nice

...just beware of the artsy people and how many different styles of counters you'll need, if the counter is to show up on the journal main page
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From: tulipswallow
2002-03-29 08:33 pm (UTC)

I'd be thrilled with just a simple counter. Start simple and grow from there, I think ...
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From: ericcoke
2002-03-29 09:05 pm (UTC)
This pretty much has nothing to do with the new things that you guys are talking about adding, but I would like it if when you people respond to a poll that you have made, you recieve their answers in an E-mail just like you do with comments. Thanks for everything, and keep up the great work! ^_^
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From: scientaestubiqu
2002-03-29 10:47 pm (UTC)

me too!

I just wished for this today...
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[User Picture]From: dragonlady7
2002-03-29 09:12 pm (UTC)

where did anonymous users come from

i would be really interested to be able to somehow maybe track where anonymous users have come from?
i have a lot of friends who read my LJ who are not themselves LJ users (though in the last 2 months i've invited 6 people, one of whom is now a paid user! woo! but there are some stubborn holdouts), so it is important to me that I not often set security levels, or disable anonymous posting. However, often anonymous posters refuse to leave a name or anything, and it is endlessly frustrating to me to have to wonder who they are, whether i know them. If there was some way of making anonymous slightly less anonymous, or at least giving some idea of the path through which they approached the journal-- ie, did they type the address in directly? i probably know them, as they probably linked to it from my IM profile. Or did they come from a search engine, or the 'find a random user' button in LJ, etc? I don't know anything about how these things are done, but I would like to see something along some lines-- that would definitely be a big happy thing for me.

and all the other ideas sound cool! my membership expires soon and i'm unemployed but i will be scraping together the dough to renew it because i love you guys and this community and it has done a lot for me over the ten or so months I've been posting.
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