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$10 coupon for your friends! [Dec. 16th, 2009|02:59 pm]
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If you have a Paid or Permanent account, you can now send 10 of your non-Paid friends a $10 coupon. Your friend will be able to purchase a Paid Account for $9.95 (instead of $19.95) for one year by enrolling in our automatic payment plan or make a manual payment of $15 (instead of $25).

  • All Paid and Permanent accounts can send out the coupons by clicking here (it's also under Friends -> Holiday promotion in the site header)
  • You can also send to people not on your Friends list by manually entering the username in the field provided
  • If your friend declines the invitation, it will be returned to your available invitation pool and you'll be able to send to someone else
  • You can send the invitations until January 15th
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[User Picture]From: annetangent
2009-12-17 10:50 pm (UTC)
1: It's a promotion, people, not a GIFT. Promotions are about business, not freebies.
2: You aren't entitled to a gift just for being paid members.
3: I love the spirit of people complaining that this is stupid because they want gifts for themselves. That's the holiday spirit, guys!
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From: activist_prawn
2009-12-17 11:14 pm (UTC)
I'm wondering why you think that people here are asking for LJ to just give them paid time for free as a "gift"? (I certainly don't see that anywhere). As promotions go, versus the Give More one, this is a pretty tacky one.

I agree with point 2. I don't agree with people acting like they should get a gift in return for giving one (wtf?) or just because they're paid members. I thought the act of gift giving was...giving? Not expecting something in return. LJ doesn't need to just give you freebies. However, if they want to do a successful promotion, you don't do this either.

3. Kind of agree. Your point seems pretty generalized. I don't think everyone who has complained about this coupon business are doing so because they got blocked on buying it for themselves... but those that do focus on that end (themselves) look whiny and a bit entitled.

But if you decide you want to give a gift to a friend or family, do you just funnel a coupon to them and expect them to foot the rest of the difference, rather than going to a store yourself and buying it yourself for them? Because that's pretty tacky and not really a gift at that point.

I don't know about you, but I didn't know a gift entailed the receiver paying for it.
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[User Picture]From: annetangent
2009-12-20 11:26 pm (UTC)
I've seen plenty of people complaining that they should just get free time.

If you think that's tacky, why not give the coupon and gift certificate for the rest? There's no obligation to only give the coupon, unless you only want to give a free gift.
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From: activist_prawn
2009-12-21 12:59 am (UTC)
Yeah, I actually saw some people doing those very complaints a page or so after I said that, so I stand corrected. Sorry about that.

No, I don't want to support this offer at all. I'm going to just go buy something else and elsewhere for my friends instead. There's plenty of other things they want for Christmas than just LJ paid time.
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[User Picture]From: peiyu
2009-12-18 09:41 am (UTC)
The old promotion was a different one in that it you can either buy brand new or renew paid time for other users along with a freebie of extra icons for them. It's very Christmasy and happy.

Now this is just for basic/plus members. Sure you can gift the user a gift certificate to use on top of the $10 discount, but that's just lame.
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[User Picture]From: annetangent
2009-12-20 11:27 pm (UTC)
And that's the old one, they're not obligated to that. And why is that lame? Friend gets an account, you get a discount.
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[User Picture]From: peiyu
2009-12-21 05:32 pm (UTC)
I can't gift renewal time with the discount for a friend who already has a paid account. I can be nice and not make use of the discount, but this new "promotion" spins a whole new tale. Now I'm just a salesperson and I'm not happy. Personally giving up 6 years of paid account once it expires end of this year because this kind of is the last straw in string of fuckery.
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[User Picture]From: annetangent
2009-12-21 11:55 pm (UTC)
Does that apply to all gifts? If you give someone a gift they don't already have you're a salesperson? Have fun giving it up, I've seen tens of people at least wanting and taking the coupons. You're not entitled to gifts.
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[User Picture]From: peiyu
2009-12-22 03:12 am (UTC)
You're missing the point entirely. I usually gift a friend paid time regardless of how whether they are paid or basic/plus members or whether it was during any promotion (it does help, and good for boasting business from that point of view) and I do it because I know they would enjoy it. These are what everyone calls a gift, and any promotion would be fun to receive (it has become a tradition for friends to buy for each other; power of communities).

Now this is a bad disguise, aka Christmas "promotion" so exclusive to basic/plus members and with an expiry date, and it feels cheap. I know I'm not entitled to gifts, but it just feels like a slap in the face. If this "promotion" was never approved and released, I would have gone my merry way renewing my account and doing the same for my friends. Gaining goodwill of the community and its members is important, like how it wasn't necessary for them to have given us extra 3-day paid time for the downtime... GOODWILL.

I understand that there will be people appreciating the coupons but I know there are fewer newly converted members than there are paid members whose paid accounts happened to expire or are expiring soon. There will also be a group within the community (like myself) who have decided that they would rather live without a paid account because of the lost goodwill. I might renew if there are decent promotions in the future. This is what business sense is all about.


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[User Picture]From: annetangent
2009-12-22 03:14 am (UTC)
It's a slap in the face to not get a gift and it's bad business to not extend good will in the form of gifts?
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