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Question for Paidmembers [Mar. 19th, 2009|11:58 am]
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We've had some conversations recently about some of the reasons people buy Paid Accounts. Rather than try to guess, we wanted to ask you why *you* have a Paid (or Permanent) Account. Hence, a poll.

On the first question, we're looking for the handful of top reasons you have a Paid Account, so please check any of the options that were motivating factors for you. On the second, we ask that you try to narrow it down to the single biggest reason. If there was a primary or motivating reason for you that we haven't listed, please do add it in the text box provided.

Poll #1368228 What motivated you to have a Paid Account?

Please select the three to five biggest reasons you have a Paid Account

No ads when I read or use LiveJournal
55(0.5%)
Other people don't see ads when they view my journal
3(0.0%)
More userpics
79(0.7%)
More customization options (more styles/advanced customization)
12(0.1%)
Polls
1(0.0%)
Scrapbook
4(0.0%)
Mobile features (text via profile, voice post, TXTLJ)
3(0.0%)
@livejournal.com forwarding email address
1(0.0%)
Mass-edit security level of posts
21(0.2%)
Custom mood themes
2(0.0%)
Embedding/domain forwarding
1(0.0%)
Ability to edit comments
9(0.1%)
Copies of my own comments emailed to me
1(0.0%)
I just like Live Journal and am happy to pay for it
80(0.7%)
I've had a Paid account for long time and am used to it
10(0.1%)
I like the status of being a Paid user
3(0.0%)
My paid account was gifted to me by a friend
74(0.6%)

Please select the single biggest reason you have a Paid Account

No ads when I read or use LiveJournal
2786(26.1%)
Other people don't see ads when they view my journal
193(1.8%)
More userpics
2942(27.6%)
More customization options (more styles/advanced customization)
1063(10.0%)
Polls
122(1.1%)
Scrapbook
251(2.4%)
Mobile features (text via profile, voice post, TXTLJ)
71(0.7%)
@livejournal.com forwarding email address
30(0.3%)
Mass-edit security level of posts
202(1.9%)
Custom mood themes
60(0.6%)
Embedding/domain forwarding
26(0.2%)
Ability to edit comments
325(3.0%)
Copies of my own comments emailed to me
33(0.3%)
I just like Live Journal and am happy to pay for it
1343(12.6%)
I've had a Paid account for long time and am used to it
770(7.2%)
I like the status of being a Paid user
126(1.2%)
My paid account was gifted to me by a friend
320(3.0%)

Anything not on this list that was a primary reason you have a Paid Account?



Thank you!
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[User Picture]From: grenada
2009-03-19 08:45 pm (UTC)
I like lj and think that it's not a lot - to pay 35$ to help the thing that means so much for me.
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[User Picture]From: maidenus
2009-03-19 08:45 pm (UTC)
There's just so much I love! D:

Basically everything in that poll, to be honest.
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[User Picture]From: superbus
2009-03-19 08:50 pm (UTC)
The real #1 reason I went permanent was because I believed in the community aspect back when Brad was running things.

Then Six Apart bought it, and I was skeptical, but thought they tried their best.

Now, after selling to Russia, and the abuses of LJ Abuse that I've documented plenty of times in the past, I cannot fathom spending anymore money here, ever. I have bought permanent accounts for friends in the past, but will not be buying anything further for friends at this point; not from here.

Allow me to be bluntly honest: I don't like the direction Livejournal is going, and I'm still here for three reasons: 1) most of my friends are here, 2) I don't like Facebook, and 3) leaving would mean that the money I'd put into this site under better administration would become a sunk cost; there's no benefit to leaving, if that makes sense.

Want my trust back? Drop the ads, and have the Russians sell.

EDIT: Oh, and stop making things that are routine additions at other websites paid-only. Why is editing posts a paid feature only? I can see something that sucks up storage and bandwidth, but something like that is just basically telling the free/"Plus!" users "yeah, like this? You can't have it, because you're a cheap bastard! We can let you have this with two lines of code, but noooooooooo~ C'mon, open the wallet!"

I know a lot of paid users complain whenever the free users get anything, because by nature, we're impulsive, selfish and prone to a mob mentality. But it's getting silly. And this is coming from a permanent account holder.

EDIT2: And either rein in, or change the leadership of LJ Abuse. They're out of control.

Edited at 2009-03-19 08:53 pm (UTC)
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From: pauamma
2009-03-19 09:49 pm (UTC)
Editing entries has always been available to all accounts levels. Are you speaking of editing comments?
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[User Picture]From: azdak
2009-03-19 08:53 pm (UTC)
I haven't read all 381 comments, so apologies if this has already been mentioned, but I would have ticked the option "I no longer have a paid account, so I'm not sure why I'm still on this list" (and so as to be helpful rather than purely obsterperous, I briefly had a paid account as a gift from an anonymous donor - and I never found out whether it was a real person, or LJ cunningly trying to tempt me to from the Path of Righteousness by allowing me to sample the delights of a paid account - but the ability to post polls wasn't sufficent to get me to part with cold hard cash + exchange rate in order to upgrade for longer than the duration of the donated time).
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[User Picture]From: kylara
2009-03-19 08:56 pm (UTC)
The phrasing of this poll is so current. I got my permanent account years ago, big past tense. That was before a few things, such as ads -- I was paying for something to keep LJ ad-free. I was paying for a service that I trusted incredibly. That was important.

In that context, I got it for customization and icons. My reasons for getting a permanent account no longer apply in the current context of the site. Even if I were to vote for reasons such as customization, that would disregard reasons such as ads, as well as features which didn't come until later but which I enjoy. Also, no ads wasn't a feature when I got my account; that accounts are now defined by negation is significant to this context.

Perhaps a more useful poll could be: features that I most value having with my paid/permanent account now? But questions of context still come in. Do I value the no ads feature? No, I preferred when it wasn't a feature at all.
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[User Picture]From: antimony
2009-03-19 09:09 pm (UTC)
I think I've been around too long: the major reason I went perm on this account was the server speed slowdowns for free users back six or seven years ago. (By the time I bought the perm account, I think they'd finished for good, but it hadn't been long enough for anyone to be sure of that.)

I also didn't see the thread-expansion on the list. Or has that been rolled out to free/plus users and I just didn't notice because most of my accounts are paid? That would actually be a strong contender for #1 reason for all of my accounts, since it's very useful for RP and I read RP-stuff when logged into my personal journal as well.

(I voted with all four of my paid accounts: two personal, two RP, since the responses were very different. Personal = @lj email, RP = edit comments and userpics. And before anyone asks, I voted ONCE back in the user rep poll because I am not a moron or malicious thankyouverymuch.)
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[User Picture]From: dizze
2009-03-19 09:13 pm (UTC)
I have had my account for so long i didn't realise that some of the above were paid only features. Gonna keep the account just for them :)
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[User Picture]From: tallblue
2009-03-19 09:19 pm (UTC)
I started as a free users for a month and right away went paid, but that was when Brad owned LJ. I never have lapsed my paid status until I went perm (I do have two other paid accounts that are on the fence). However I do think LJ is not a good as it used to be.

Sixapart was bad.

Now with SUP I am getting Russian spam in my email inbox and I was told by LJ that it was not their fault and they can't do anything, I had to disable my LJ addy and that was supposed to be a perk of paid user status. Funny how I never had any Russian spam ever before SUP bought LJ.

The Russian friending bots are bad.
And as far as development it "seems" at least to me that it is Russian centered. I am assuming that the English users are getting the back seat and possibly viewed as a cash cow.

Also there is a huge lapse in posting in this community.

I do admit SUP is better than sixapart.

I do depend on Scrapbook and I like the ease of changing themes. These are the two things that IJ does not have. I keep my main journal private and it is a place for my thoughts to be typed out more than a public blog. So I guess the main thing is the writing, security, themes, userpics and last but not least the scrapbook which needs a ton of work.


Also I feel funny admitting this, but there is an uneasy feeling I have with a Russian company owning LJ and my journal.



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[User Picture]From: riven
2009-03-19 09:27 pm (UTC)
To be honest, I've had a paid account for like 10 years or something so I didn't even know some of this was paid only. My biggest reason for having an LJ is kind of non-interesting.. I like LJ a lot, so I pay for it. When you use something for so long, you get your money's worth. That's not to say I don't totally dig all of the paid member features. Scrapbook has been the best one thus far in my opinion.
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[User Picture]From: kittenboo
2009-03-19 09:31 pm (UTC)
i got a paid account before there were ads, and I got it because I wanted both more userpics and to customize my journal layout.

Now I keep it for the additional reason of not wanting to see ads.
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[User Picture]From: rosencrantz
2009-03-19 09:32 pm (UTC)
just to elaborate on my extra answer:

I bought a perm account during a perm account sale. I did this because I hate the ads and after nearly 10 years of using LJ and calculating what yearly renewal fees for a paid account would have been, it made sense to just get the permanent account instead. This is the single and only reason I got a "paid" journal. If permanent accounts were not an option, I would not have bothered to send any money to the LJ at all.

This is because I find LJ to be a fun tool for shooting the breeze and keeping in touch with friends, but not a necessary tool and sometimes not even an often used tool in recent times. Such a tool is for me, worth a one-time purchase but not worth a yearly renewal fee, because in my way of thinking, I could live with ads on my journal if I wasn't paying for it.

In other words,

hassle of paying a small yearly fee for an entertainment blog > annoyance over free ads

but

paying a large one-time fee for an entertainment blog < annoyance over free ads

Edited at 2009-03-19 09:33 pm (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: daisygrl
2009-03-19 09:37 pm (UTC)
I wish you would make it so people could embed widgets and stuff on the side bars of their blogs.
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[User Picture]From: superbus
2009-03-19 10:20 pm (UTC)
Agreed. I'd love to send my Twitter feed to my LJ, and frankly, find the explanation as to why this can't happen to be bollocks.
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[User Picture]From: 8hrs
2009-03-19 09:51 pm (UTC)
I got a paid account for extra userpics but these days I'm mainly (I still love my icons!!) paying to be ad-free, definitely. :|
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[User Picture]From: javagoth
2009-03-19 09:56 pm (UTC)

I just want to know

Is it a paid "Feature" that the web formatting of my journal has been messed up all day and has been messed up for at least part of the day more and more frequently??? Did I mention that when the formatting is bad many of those extras I'm supposed to have don't work? It was bad enough when it was now and then for maybe an hour or so but this has been ALL DAY today. I'd be happy to send you screen shots if you wanted to see them.

It's even more frustrating when I can go read a friends journal or make a comment to the post they made and see that *their* formatting is just fine.

*grumble*
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[User Picture]From: etfb
2009-03-19 10:19 pm (UTC)

Re: I just want to know

Change your style temporarily and see if that fixes it. If you're using an unsupported style, it could be adversely affected by ongoing changes to how LJ works.
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[User Picture]From: surreptitially
2009-03-19 09:59 pm (UTC)
More userpics/editing comments, for sure.
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