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Pingbacks and View Friends Page by Date in S1 [Feb. 27th, 2009|04:51 pm]
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Pingbacks


As announced in news today, Pingbacks have arrived on LiveJournal! For the time being, this feature is limited to Paid Accounts. More information can be found in the FAQ.

Here is how it works: your entry (as Paid user) is linked to by another (Paid) user. As long as both entries are public, and you have your comment settings set so that you can receive comments from all registered users, you will receive a screened comment from pingback_bot showing you the link to your entry. All comments by pingback_bot will be screened, regardless of your account settings - you can choose to unscreen them if you wish. Pingbacks to and from Paid Accounts can also be sent to and from any blog that supports the Pingback protocol. If you would like external sites to interact with your entries through Pingbacks, you'll need to change your default setting for Pingbacks to "Open".

We're aware that some pingbacks aren't working, but don't have enough data to determine the cause. If you try out pingbacks and they don't work, please let us know! Here's how! EDIT 3/6/09: If you haven't yet been able to send or receive Pingbacks, you can resolve the issue by going to the Privacy tab on the My Account Settings page, scroll to the bottom and click "Save". Although the default setting is "LiveJournal.com only", this setting is not recognized until settings are changed or saved. This will be fixed in the next release.

1. First, make sure that you and the person linking to your entry are both Paid users and that both entries are public. The default setting for Pingbacks will be "LiveJournal.com only," but you can check or change that on the Privacy tab of your Account Settings page.

2. Make sure your comment settings allow comments from either "registered users" or "everybody" and that you have your CAPTCHA setting for comments on "anonymous commenters" or "nobody".

3. Wait 15 minutes - this is the amount of time needed for the Pingback system to check and deliver the ping. If you don't see the comment from pingback_bot, comment here with a link to the entry that didn't get the pingback. Developers will monitor the comments here and we hope to have this issue resolved as soon as we can.

View Friends Page by Date works in S1


In December, we announced the Paid feature View Friends Page by Date. At that time, it was not compatible with journals using the S1 Style System due to the fact that S1 had been retired and deprecated. In January, developers investigated and created a fix - so if you're still using S1 you can now view your friends page by date to your heart's content!
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[User Picture]From: mythos
2009-02-27 11:03 pm (UTC)
I get it; I guess it just doesn't make much sense to me unless you're aware that you're actively being linked elsewhere and just want to keep tabs.
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[User Picture]From: gi_janearng
2009-02-27 11:04 pm (UTC)
That is the whole point of it. To be aware of who is linking you.
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[User Picture]From: mythos
2009-02-27 11:05 pm (UTC)
Oh. That's it?

Nothing to be excited over imo.
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[User Picture]From: gi_janearng
2009-02-27 11:07 pm (UTC)
That's why I made the comment above about the snark communities. Unless you've written something really read-worthy and discussion-stirring...all it's going to do is serve that purpose.
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[User Picture]From: gabe_speaks
2009-03-01 01:53 am (UTC)
But there are loads of people writing 'read-worthy' materials--original fiction writers, essayists, and the like. Plenty of 'scholarly types' on my mom's LJ — lord knows I don't know why she's friends with them — so I'm sure they could use this feature.

Yeah, the snark-lovers can abuse the feature, but hey, they 'abused' the blogging thing in general, so why not a feature. ;-)
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[User Picture]From: matgb
2009-02-28 01:09 am (UTC)

Pingbacks can be useful

It's useful. I use a variety of incoming link trackers, because my stuff gets linked to a fair bit, sometimes for good reasons, sometimes because someone disagrees with me.

In non-LJ blogging, the polite thing to do if you respect someone's opinion but disagree with them is to link to their post and talk about it, that way their readers come to you. If there's a pingback, your readers can come to them as well.

It's very common in Wordpress powered blogs, and had been a promised feature regularly asked for since Before LJ was sold by Brad to 6A.

It'll be expecially popular with the Russian users, who use LJ in a much more "normal" blogging style to us LJers.
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[User Picture]From: fierceawakening
2009-02-28 02:37 am (UTC)

Re: Pingbacks can be useful

the polite thing to do if you respect someone's opinion but disagree with them is to link to their post and talk about it, that way their readers come to you. If there's a pingback, your readers can come to them as well.

This. Thank you.
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[User Picture]From: matgb
2009-02-28 09:39 am (UTC)

Re: Pingbacks can be useful

The thing about it I don't like is that the pingbacks are auto screened. I understand that's a privacy/anti-spam measure, but I'd rather have any I receive public straightaway, the delete button is still there if I don't want something.
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[User Picture]From: sabinelagrande
2009-02-27 11:07 pm (UTC)
That's pretty much the point. It makes a lot of sense if you use your journal to, say, post fiction or creative non-fiction; you may never know that other people are reading your stuff until months later, because they'll post about something you've written but not comment on it.

Not that that happens to me all the time or anything.
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[User Picture]From: mythos
2009-02-27 11:09 pm (UTC)
OH, you're right, yeah I can see why that would be useful in that context.
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[User Picture]From: mayerman
2009-02-27 11:50 pm (UTC)
I believe the point is for when you *aren't* aware that you're being linked elsewhere. This way if someone links your entry and doesn't tell you first, you'll know - because otherwise it might be kind of hard to browse through everyone's journal on the entire site looking for links to your entries :)
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