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Pingbacks and View Friends Page by Date in S1 [Feb. 27th, 2009|04:51 pm]
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Pingbacks


As announced in news today, Pingbacks have arrived on LiveJournal! For the time being, this feature is limited to Paid Accounts. More information can be found in the FAQ.

Here is how it works: your entry (as Paid user) is linked to by another (Paid) user. As long as both entries are public, and you have your comment settings set so that you can receive comments from all registered users, you will receive a screened comment from pingback_bot showing you the link to your entry. All comments by pingback_bot will be screened, regardless of your account settings - you can choose to unscreen them if you wish. Pingbacks to and from Paid Accounts can also be sent to and from any blog that supports the Pingback protocol. If you would like external sites to interact with your entries through Pingbacks, you'll need to change your default setting for Pingbacks to "Open".

We're aware that some pingbacks aren't working, but don't have enough data to determine the cause. If you try out pingbacks and they don't work, please let us know! Here's how! EDIT 3/6/09: If you haven't yet been able to send or receive Pingbacks, you can resolve the issue by going to the Privacy tab on the My Account Settings page, scroll to the bottom and click "Save". Although the default setting is "LiveJournal.com only", this setting is not recognized until settings are changed or saved. This will be fixed in the next release.

1. First, make sure that you and the person linking to your entry are both Paid users and that both entries are public. The default setting for Pingbacks will be "LiveJournal.com only," but you can check or change that on the Privacy tab of your Account Settings page.

2. Make sure your comment settings allow comments from either "registered users" or "everybody" and that you have your CAPTCHA setting for comments on "anonymous commenters" or "nobody".

3. Wait 15 minutes - this is the amount of time needed for the Pingback system to check and deliver the ping. If you don't see the comment from pingback_bot, comment here with a link to the entry that didn't get the pingback. Developers will monitor the comments here and we hope to have this issue resolved as soon as we can.

View Friends Page by Date works in S1


In December, we announced the Paid feature View Friends Page by Date. At that time, it was not compatible with journals using the S1 Style System due to the fact that S1 had been retired and deprecated. In January, developers investigated and created a fix - so if you're still using S1 you can now view your friends page by date to your heart's content!
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[User Picture]From: hakuen
2009-02-28 01:41 am (UTC)
That's creepy. It's a lot creepier knowing for sure that some bot is tracking your posts, everyone's posts, and sending these comments, than it is not knowing who's linked your posts where. Every step that livejournal has taken toward invasiveness lately has creeped me out more. What the hell are you guys doing?

Ed.: At least make it opt-in. :-/ I don't want this anywhere near any of my livejournals -- even though I know technically it will be, I want to be able to at least pretend to myself otherwise. Really, lj is getting creepy.

Edited at 2009-02-28 01:43 am (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: mayerman
2009-02-28 02:04 am (UTC)
It already is opt-in. Just set PingBacks to "Disabled" on the privacy settings tab.
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[User Picture]From: astridv
2009-02-28 01:41 am (UTC)
Sounds useful.
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[User Picture]From: xnera
2009-02-28 02:07 am (UTC)
YAY!! I remember when the original Suggestion for Trackback implementation was submitted. This has been a long time coming, and I'm very happy it's finally here. Thanks!
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[User Picture]From: ashkitty
2009-02-28 02:08 am (UTC)
Thank you for making the friends-page-by-date thing work with S1. :)
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[User Picture]From: pne
2009-02-28 12:58 pm (UTC)
Ditto!
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[User Picture]From: lab_brat
2009-02-28 02:20 am (UTC)
does this work for communities as well, so long as the conditions are met? if so then I think its a great idea. If only so that people can see where their art or writing or other work is being pimped out and where, so they can check it out. :D
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[User Picture]From: lothy
2009-02-28 02:38 am (UTC)

This is great, thank you.

Just a few questions: does this apply to posts in communities as well? If so, does the community have to be paid to get the pingbacks, or just the user who's posting in the community? Likewise, does the community have to be paid for links in it to be picked up by the bot?

Also, is it only going to apply to new posts, or will new links to old posts also be picked up? Or even old links to old posts? I've never used a trackback system before so I don't know much about it.
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[User Picture]From: halcyon
2009-02-28 02:43 am (UTC)
Is this what paid user money is going to now? It's completely pointless.
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[User Picture]From: sweetphaex
2009-02-28 03:42 am (UTC)
So is this why i'm gettin' no pings from lj re- tracking comm updates, responses to my comments/posts now.

PLEASE TO BE FIXING SOMETHING THAT'S ACTUALLY BROKE.

Like streamlining custom emote proceedures. That shiz is painful.
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[User Picture]From: thewhiteowl
2009-02-28 09:12 pm (UTC)
Custom emote?
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[User Picture]From: marishna
2009-02-28 04:59 am (UTC)
I'm okay with this feature, it doesn't phase me one way or another, really.

But I agree with the growing number of people that are commenting. Instead of spending time and resources to bring NEW features, why not fix the ones you already have that are problematic. BEFORE you have problems with the new ones and spread yourselves too thin.

Again with the issue of not listening to the user base. Thanks, more reinforcement that our comments are lost in the ether.
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[User Picture]From: thewhiteowl
2009-02-28 09:12 pm (UTC)
People have been asking for ping/trackbacks since it was Brad they were asking.
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[User Picture]From: naamah_darling
2009-02-28 05:11 am (UTC)
As the mod of a community that gets linked to A LOT, could youall please explain how this will work with communities once full functionality has been rolled out for this feature?

Thank you!

I really want to see sitewand community support for this. It will make it SO much easier to moderate high-traffic, high-wank comms.
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[User Picture]From: mlady_rebecca
2009-02-28 05:35 am (UTC)
How will it work with communities when you open up the tool to all users? If I link to a community post, will the mods see a ping-back?
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[User Picture]From: emmuzka
2009-02-28 05:36 am (UTC)
Interesting feature, but limiting it so that both the writer linking you and the writer using tracker service must have paid accounts renders t useless.

Why not limit it so that only the person using the pingpack must be a paid member. What good does it her to receive *some*, but not *all* linking to her entry?
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[User Picture]From: zvi_likes_tv
2009-02-28 07:47 am (UTC)
Limiting it to paid users is for a testing phase. It will eventually be extended to all users.
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From: anti_aol
2009-02-28 06:12 am (UTC)
*erased original comment here*

Never mind. Just read the relevant FAQ (why in the name of God did you folks not include a link to it in the original post?) and it turns out you will be able to get pingbacks from anyone on the Web once the feature is turned on. But tonight's announcement that it already was on has been striked out in the News announcement; it's now turned off until "further notice". Confusing much? *grrrrrr*

And I don't care what, I still want both free and paid users to have the ability to use Javascript, an improvement in our user experience that is long overdue. Please don't tell me to go post about it in suggestions, either. It's already been posted a'plenty.

Edited at 2009-02-28 06:52 am (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: pw201
2009-02-28 11:28 pm (UTC)
I still want both free and paid users to have the ability to use Javascript

Gaping security hole, will never happen. The way every journal gets its own sub-domain these days is part of defence in depth against users being able to post Javascript on livejournal.com, because of the last time LJ accidentally let users write Javascript.
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[User Picture]From: lorata
2009-02-28 06:21 am (UTC)
As someone who uses LJ primarily to post fiction, I'm pleased with the pingbacks feature. It will be more useful to me when it's rolled out for all users -- since most of my writing is under friends-lock -- but I'm glad to see it even in its infancy.

For the complainers -- agh. Just because you don't see any use for a feature does not automatically make it useless for everyone. I, for one, am glad to see LJ releasing something that -- believe it or not! -- has been requested for years, and not merely stagnating trying to fix old problems. Gah.
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[User Picture]From: wayya
2009-02-28 10:32 am (UTC)
But if it only works for paid users, what's the point of a privacy setting that says "Open" instead of "LiveJournal.com only"...?
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