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Disk Space Upgrades [Mar. 7th, 2005|04:13 pm]
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If you're interested, we're asking people to help us test our new disk space upgrade purchase options. More details can be found in fotobilder_user.
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[User Picture]From: njyoder
2005-03-08 01:56 am (UTC)
It's not psyops, it's just a stupid advertisement disguised as testing. THey don't need users to BUY accounts to test the service. They can do it all themselves. Your defense doesn't work since other businesses have done this for much, much less and been rather succesful. There is ZERO reason for this post to exist unless they have really incompetent coders that are bad at testing. I know their codrs (brad included) suck, but they don't suck this much.
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[User Picture]From: decadence1
2005-03-08 04:19 pm (UTC)

[I]t's just a stupid advertisement disguised as testing. They can do it all themselves. There is ZERO reason for this post to exist unless they have really incompetent coders that are bad at testing. I know their codrs (brad included) suck, but they don't suck this much.

You clearly know nothing about Quality Assurance (rough translation for you: 'testing') and next to nothing about programming.

1) FotoBilder including LiveJournal.com's hosted installation ScrapBook is in a BETA stage. That means ALL sub-aspects of it are subject to testing. In your special world perhaps a team of programmers I can probably count on one hand are able to code+test+isolatebugs+fixeverything and work from conception to release all without user testing. In the real world 100,000+ people with a myriad of different needs and platforms can test and offer feedback that one person cannot. You may want to look up the definition of open-source too; so you can 'refresh' your knowledge...

2) You are clearly not technically qualified to make judgments about the coding expertise of the developers. The LiveJournal server code is installed and used in companies like Sun Microsystems and the United States Dept. of Energy. Components like Memcache, Perlbal are used on such high-use sites as Wikipedia, Slashdot and more. Much of the programming and ideas were produced by Brad. I honestly think organisations like those are far, far better judges of programming prowess than yourself; given the unprecedented level of ignorance you've displayed in this community.

3) You are welcome to leave this community at any time. Indeed, you may find an alternative journalling portal better fits your 'requirements'.

4) Although it might be tempting to suggest you contribute code to the open-source project if you are so confident of your own talents, in this case I think that would be unwise. Given the way you've shamed yourself in this community a better use of your time would be working on your social skills, gaining a basic grasp of what's known as 'netiquette', and developing some emotional maturity.
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[User Picture]From: njyoder
2005-03-08 09:24 pm (UTC)
You clearly know nothing about Quality Assurance (rough translation for you: 'testing') and next to nothing about programming.

You don't even know what QA means. QA is a paid service companies have so that if there's a problem with the service you have with them, they go ahead and immediatly fix it. QA has a GUARANTEE they will do that with a contract you sign. This is NOT QA. FYI, I am a programmer and have been one for much longer than that.

1) We're talking about testing quotas, nothing more. It's easy as hell to test quotas and you dont need a large user base to do that. It's also a trivial feature to implement. What kinf od feedback are people going to offer? "It doesn't work."? This feature either works or it doesn't, there's no inbetween.

2) I've been programing much longer than you have and them as well. The LJ code is crappy and of mediocre design. Since when does sun and the government run their own blogging service? WTF? Slashdot is yet another site with crappy code, they spent years putting hacks upon hacks to put heir code base together. And you're also citing wikipedia which has gone through at least 3 completely different software packages for wiki now since none of them have been satisfactory so far, they're just using the best free options for what they have. In fact, perlbal is rarely used, there are simpler, much better alternatives available that are a lot more popular.

And if you want to go based on the popularity argument (LJ code ISN'T popular at all), then I can always find a big website that is using some kind of software that people consider to be crap. That includes major websites running windows or anything else that's widely accepted as shit. So spare me your fallacious reasoning.

3. Why would I leave this community? Clearly I need to correct the stupidity of PR apologists like you. The only reason LJ remains popular is not because of technical merit, but because of its popularity. LJ is big because it has so many users on it. If that weren't the case, the other companies would all just use the freely avaiable source code and start their own, but if you notice none of those services have done that well since LJ does well based on popularity alone.

4. I'm not going to contribute to hacked together kludge like LJ.

FYI, no credible programmer writes large scale projects in perl, it's pathetic. This hapepns a lot. A programmer will start off with something small in perl, then add feature after feature with hack after hack, building it up in a way it wasn't supposed to. A decent programmer would have redesigned it a long time ago (FORMAL design methods rather than hacks--design patterns anyone?) in a better alternative. If you notice, no serious, respectable computer programmers are known for writing large perl-based programs. The shitty coders of LJ aren't even known in the programming community, to them this is yet another crappy project made by wannabes in a 'trendy language'
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[User Picture]From: decadence1
2005-03-08 09:43 pm (UTC)

Sigh.

You don't even know what QA means. QA is a paid service companies have so that if there's a problem with the service you have with them, they go ahead and immediatly fix it. QA has a GUARANTEE they will do that with a contract you sign. This is NOT QA. FYI, I am a programmer and have been one for much longer than that.

Actually, I worked in Quality Assurance divisions within software companies for a number of years. I'd like to think I "know what QA means".
You can probably learn about quality assurance and testing at your local library; should you ever tire of being argumentative on websites.

I never said those companies 'ran their own blogging service', you can re-read my original comment - should you wish. I have virtually zero interest in further "discussion" with you. Bye. :)
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