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Earn Extra Cash with Your Journal! [Sep. 21st, 2009|06:47 pm]
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As many of you may have alraedy seen, LiveJournal announced the Your Journal - Your Money feature today in news. This feature allows you to link your Paid or Permanent LiveJournal account to a Google AdSense account to display ads on your journal. You keep all of the proceeds from the display of these ads once Google takes their cut; LiveJournal does not keep any portion of the generated revenue.

Now, before getting into any of the technical details at all, let's cover the most important point right up front:  this feature is completely opt-in. If you choose not to use Your Journal - Your Money, nothing will change about your LiveJournal experience. You will never see any ads from this program on LiveJournal while you are logged in. Only those users who use this feature will see these ads.

So, those of you who know you'd never be interested in using Your Journal - Your Money can skip the rest of this post if you like and continue on down your Friends page. For those that want to know more, dive behind the cut for all the details.

How to set it up, control ad placement, opt-in to see ads on your friends' journals, and everything else.Collapse )
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[User Picture]From: lowiness
2009-09-22 03:38 am (UTC)
Hmm, this is an interesting idea. I doubt I'll be using it since my journal is so small, but I don't mind having the option available.

I am curious about something though. In the post it said "LiveJournal does not keep any portion of the generated revenue.". So if this is not a benefit in any way to LJ, why add it? Was this something requested by a large number of users? I'm just wondering.
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[User Picture]From: foxfirefey
2009-09-22 04:06 am (UTC)
My guess would be that LJ gets a (slight) kick back for each user that signs up. Because Google's AdSense program doesn't pay out until someone's account reaches $100, which few journals will be able to reach with any speed, it is very beneficial for Google to hold all that money in aggregate, which they can make interest on before they pay out. Additionally, if someone's paid LJ account is cancelled, the FAQ says the Google AdSense account is automatically cancelled, and if there are less than $10 in that account, the user does not get anything back. And, of course, Google makes money on all the ads whether or not a user gets paid back or not. This means that Google can afford to give LiveJournal a small kickback for each journal that signs up with AdSense.
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[User Picture]From: bad
2009-09-22 03:49 am (UTC)
WHAT I NEED TO MODIFY IN MY CUSTOM THEME TO ENABLE ADS?
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[User Picture]From: evila_elf
2009-09-22 04:19 am (UTC)
Why are people all flipping their shit about this??

Yes, you can choose to do it. Or not. If you choose to, only other people who choose to do it as well can see the ads. You are not forcing it on other people who aren't already asking for it.
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[User Picture]From: xo_kizzy_xo
2009-09-22 04:55 am (UTC)
Thank you!
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[User Picture]From: dimfuture
2009-09-22 04:23 am (UTC)
I am totally filled with nerd rage and disdain about this for reasons I refuse to go into, but rest assured I will be writing a -very- strongly worded letter to my four-person "trusted" filter.
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[User Picture]From: heinous_bitca
2009-09-22 04:33 am (UTC)


(yes, I know it's OPT-IN, this is just my response)
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[User Picture]From: glowing_dragon
2009-09-22 04:58 am (UTC)
(Sorry about the not-quite-right grammar on the My Ads tab in this area -- we'll get that fixed up as quickly as possible.)

You should have thought of that before you rolled this out. :P


And I don't really want to subject my friends to ads...
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[User Picture]From: unknownj
2009-09-22 05:02 am (UTC)
I like it. My only issue thus far is that I can't enable it in communities (which is probably where the main income is to be found) - otherwise, this is a feature that's been discussed for years, that I've always been looking forward to. Good job..
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[User Picture]From: foxfirefey
2009-09-22 05:37 pm (UTC)
Enabling it for communities is problematic (which maintainer gets the money?) and likely unprofitable for LJ.

Most communities aren't paid to begin with because they don't have many good paid features, which means that LJ is getting the ad revenue from them (since even Basic communities are showing ads to logged out viewers). That ad revenue is more than they'd get from a paid account plus the AdSense API referral kickback, so there's little incentive to implement it for communities.
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[User Picture]From: capri_chan
2009-09-22 06:22 am (UTC)
Question!

Are you guys currently working on any of the stuff we've actually been asking for, or is it just this other stuff? I'm just wondering if we'll ever be able to...say...search our own journals, or search using multiple tags, or even get the a la carte userpics?

Because even if I don't personally care about that last one, I know that a lot of people do, and it'd be nice to see it so that I'd know that you're actually doing something about the stuff we've been requesting for months or years now.
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[User Picture]From: shanaqui
2009-09-22 09:31 am (UTC)
I'm wondering especially about the journal search. Dreamwidth implemented it with ease, after all. Fortunately I have all my content mirrored there, so now I just go and use Dreamwidth to search old posts but... you know. I use LiveJournal more and I shelled out for a permanent account.
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[User Picture]From: vivider
2009-09-22 06:22 am (UTC)
I'm honestly not seeing the point of this. I can't put my finger on what I dislike about it, it just seems distasteful to me in some way. Particularly if this comment is in any way accurate, which seems quite possible.

Oh LJ, you could be spending your development dollars on so many things in higher demand. /SIGH.
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[User Picture]From: foxfirefey
2009-09-22 04:27 pm (UTC)
Just so you know--the FAQ was worded incorrectly and is being fixed. The AdSense account is not automatically cancelled. However, there is an AdSense API referral program and it does take getting to $100 to get a payout unless you cancel your AdSense account.
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[User Picture]From: hildeaux
2009-09-22 06:51 am (UTC)
has this turned out to be a hoax yet? LOL.
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[User Picture]From: psychokitten76
2009-09-22 11:59 am (UTC)
Because heaven forbid anyone should try to earn some extra money.
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[User Picture]From: thekumquat
2009-09-22 10:08 am (UTC)
Call me dim, but I don't get it. If "Only those users who use this feature will see these ads.", does that mean only the people who agree to add this feature will see the ads?

In which case fine.

Or does it mean 'people who add the feature will have ads on all their posts, so anyone who reads them will also see the ads'? And if the latter, is that everyone who reads the advertiser's journal, or only people without paid accounts?
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[User Picture]From: astronewt
2009-09-22 02:34 pm (UTC)
To try and cover the possibilities here:

-- Paid users who opt-in to this feature and who also opt-in to seeing ads site-wide (a separate checkbox selection) will see these ads throughout the site -- on their own journal and on other paid users' journals who are in the program.

-- Paid users who opt-in to this feature but do not opt-in to them site wide would only see the ads displayed on their own journal if they visited it.

-- Paid users who do not opt-in to use this feature will not see these ads at all -- not on their own journal, and not anywhere else.

-- Basic/Plus users will see these ads when they visit paid users' journals who have opted-in to this feature. The 'Only those users who use this feature' line here in paidmembers was referring specifically to this audience -- paid users for whom this feature is available. It was trying to clarify that those paid users who don't use the program won't see the ads.
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[User Picture]From: mudo
2009-09-22 12:33 pm (UTC)

Here's something useful.

You misspelled "already," by the way.
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[User Picture]From: wildilocks
2009-09-22 02:08 pm (UTC)
So. let me get this straight - the only way to see ads in the Adsense program (as mentioned in the last part of the how-to above), is to enable them on your own journal, is that right?

I mean, I'm vaguely curious to see who on my FL goes for this,and would like to maybe turn it on temporarily just to do so - some high profile journals of the calibre that usually are found on their own dedicated sites with ads (there are a few) I think would be crazy not to, but the majority wouldn't make much.

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[User Picture]From: asy
2009-09-22 02:25 pm (UTC)
why it doesn't work for communities?
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[User Picture]From: mollydot
2009-09-22 02:54 pm (UTC)
I'm a paid user. Can I opt in to see my friends' without signing up to adsense?
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[User Picture]From: acktacky
2009-09-22 03:41 pm (UTC)
LJ has some of the whiniest people on the internet. I swear. Hawwww.
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[User Picture]From: phantomminuet
2009-09-22 03:53 pm (UTC)
OMG! I'm outraged! I'm offended! I'm--oh, wait. I just realized that I don't care.

Carry on.
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[User Picture]From: beuk
2009-09-22 04:13 pm (UTC)
Doesn't every single person on the internet use adblock?
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[User Picture]From: lady_ganesh
2009-09-22 10:43 pm (UTC)
Only the smart ones!
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[User Picture]From: cos
2009-09-22 04:26 pm (UTC)
It seems strange that you're required to choose the option that says you want to display ads on your journal, before you're allowed to "help friends" by viewing their ads. What if you just want to view them, and not display any on your own journal?
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[User Picture]From: foxfirefey
2009-09-22 04:31 pm (UTC)
My guess is it's just awkward wording. There doesn't seem to have been a lot of proofreading or refinement on this before it went out.
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[User Picture]From: chefxh
2009-09-22 04:32 pm (UTC)
Oh, absolutely not. This is not Facebook. What a horrible idea.
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[User Picture]From: foxfirefey
2009-09-22 05:08 pm (UTC)
Er, what feature on Facebook is like this?
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[User Picture]From: zap4ick
2009-09-22 08:50 pm (UTC)
my entries was centered, now when i set advertisment on the right side my entries are on the left :( can i leave it centered?
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[User Picture]From: heartbreak
2009-09-23 01:02 pm (UTC)
Is this available to all country around the world?
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[User Picture]From: aishuu
2009-09-23 02:46 pm (UTC)
...so not renewing my paid account. So not happy with this shit. So glad I never bought a perm account.
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