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Pingbacks and View Friends Page by Date in S1 [Feb. 27th, 2009|04:51 pm]
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Pingbacks


As announced in news today, Pingbacks have arrived on LiveJournal! For the time being, this feature is limited to Paid Accounts. More information can be found in the FAQ.

Here is how it works: your entry (as Paid user) is linked to by another (Paid) user. As long as both entries are public, and you have your comment settings set so that you can receive comments from all registered users, you will receive a screened comment from pingback_bot showing you the link to your entry. All comments by pingback_bot will be screened, regardless of your account settings - you can choose to unscreen them if you wish. Pingbacks to and from Paid Accounts can also be sent to and from any blog that supports the Pingback protocol. If you would like external sites to interact with your entries through Pingbacks, you'll need to change your default setting for Pingbacks to "Open".

We're aware that some pingbacks aren't working, but don't have enough data to determine the cause. If you try out pingbacks and they don't work, please let us know! Here's how! EDIT 3/6/09: If you haven't yet been able to send or receive Pingbacks, you can resolve the issue by going to the Privacy tab on the My Account Settings page, scroll to the bottom and click "Save". Although the default setting is "LiveJournal.com only", this setting is not recognized until settings are changed or saved. This will be fixed in the next release.

1. First, make sure that you and the person linking to your entry are both Paid users and that both entries are public. The default setting for Pingbacks will be "LiveJournal.com only," but you can check or change that on the Privacy tab of your Account Settings page.

2. Make sure your comment settings allow comments from either "registered users" or "everybody" and that you have your CAPTCHA setting for comments on "anonymous commenters" or "nobody".

3. Wait 15 minutes - this is the amount of time needed for the Pingback system to check and deliver the ping. If you don't see the comment from pingback_bot, comment here with a link to the entry that didn't get the pingback. Developers will monitor the comments here and we hope to have this issue resolved as soon as we can.

View Friends Page by Date works in S1


In December, we announced the Paid feature View Friends Page by Date. At that time, it was not compatible with journals using the S1 Style System due to the fact that S1 had been retired and deprecated. In January, developers investigated and created a fix - so if you're still using S1 you can now view your friends page by date to your heart's content!
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[User Picture]From: thedisassociate
2009-02-27 10:54 pm (UTC)
Sounds ridiculous. I don't see the point.

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[User Picture]From: foxylovesme
2009-02-27 10:56 pm (UTC)
I don't even UNDERSTAND it....and what is the point? >.
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[User Picture]From: kahlan_amnell
2009-02-27 10:56 pm (UTC)
I guess Pingbacks would be useful if lots of people link to your journal entries and you want to keep track of it. I'd hadn't heard of it before. I probably won't be using it, but it sounds interesting.
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[User Picture]From: sunshine_by
2009-03-02 07:05 am (UTC)
It is a pratcial way to say thank you if you link to someone's post.
Say, if I mention your on my lj, you would know it - in a form of a new comment.

Similar thing was done for Wordpress - and it works just fine!
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[User Picture]From: mythos
2009-02-27 10:59 pm (UTC)
AND THE GRAND POINT IS ????

wait, there is none.

Couldn't workforce be devoted towards things that more users are asking for, like a la carte userpics and ongoing support issues? Don't Verizon customers have trouble using TxtLJ? And, not to mention the ever-annoying "hey-that's-not-my-userpic" issue...

THOUGH I WILL ADMIT, THIS USERNAME TITLING THING IS PRETTY HILARIOUS.

Edited at 2009-02-27 11:13 pm (UTC)
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From: conejita_diabla
2009-02-27 11:19 pm (UTC)
I love ZP! May I use the icon, with credit?
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[User Picture]From: intravenous
2009-02-27 10:59 pm (UTC)
"your entry (as Paid user) is linked to by another (Paid) user. As long as both entries are public, and you have your comment settings set so that you can receive comments from all registered users"

that's an awful lot of restrictions.
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[User Picture]From: mayerman
2009-02-27 11:44 pm (UTC)
The Paid user restriction will be removed when the feature is available to all users (which is the eventual plan). The public entry restriction seems pretty logical; the system wouldn't ping about a link in a protected entry because that would be a violation of the privacy of whoever posted the entry (essentially revealing at least part of the entry's content). If the initial entry that's being pinged about is protected, the pingback bot won't be able to leave a comment on it (unless you add it as a Friend, obviously, which would just be another restriction, and one I'm sure people wouldn't be too happy about). And as for the comments - well, if commenting is disabled, the bot can't leave the pingback comment, which defeats the whole purpose.

I do like the idea of using the PM system instead, though - that could avoid the commenting problem (though obviously you'd have to have PMs enabled instead, but I think most people probably do).
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[User Picture]From: gi_janearng
2009-02-27 11:00 pm (UTC)
LOL @ everyone friending pingback_bot
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[User Picture]From: lizzie
2009-02-27 11:33 pm (UTC)
I thought you were kidding, until I looked at pingback_bot's userinfo. Oi.
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[User Picture]From: delleve
2009-02-27 11:00 pm (UTC)
...I'm not understanding the point of pingbacks.

wat
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[User Picture]From: mourning
2009-02-27 11:01 pm (UTC)
i don't understand.
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[User Picture]From: mourning
2009-02-27 11:08 pm (UTC)

er...

so if a paid user makes an ENTRY that links to another paid user's journal, pingback_bot alerts them? is that it?
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[User Picture]From: sabinelagrande
2009-02-27 11:02 pm (UTC)
...I'm not understanding why nobody gets the point of pingbacks.

Thanks, guys! I've been wondering when this was going to happen.
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[User Picture]From: mythos
2009-02-27 11:03 pm (UTC)
I get it; I guess it just doesn't make much sense to me unless you're aware that you're actively being linked elsewhere and just want to keep tabs.
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[User Picture]From: naughtydolphin
2009-02-27 11:02 pm (UTC)
Colour me lost as well.
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[User Picture]From: bethie_p
2009-02-27 11:03 pm (UTC)
Um.. what?
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[User Picture]From: flamingtoilet
2009-02-27 11:04 pm (UTC)

Don't get the point.

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[User Picture]From: foxylovesme
2009-02-27 11:45 pm (UTC)

Re: Don't get the point.

Bwhahahahahaha....=D
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[User Picture]From: abyschan
2009-02-27 11:09 pm (UTC)

From the News journal.

Ever wondered who's linking to your posts in their journal or blog? We're introducing a new feature for Paid and Permanent Accounts that lets you track references to your posts using Pingbacks. Whenever someone links to one of your entries, you'll receive a notification in the form of a screened comment from [info]pingback_bot. Get the full scoop on Pingbacks here at [info]paidmembers and in the FAQ.

So basicially, its for those lovely moments where you find 2378472 random people flooding your comments with snark and dumb, Pingbot will tell you which other-journal your post was just linked to for whatever reason.

IE

You post something, going along the lines of "Kenny Glenn is hot lol" in your journal. It is public. Someone sees this post, nerdrages, and posts it on their rather popular PETA-supporting livejournal going "WTFOMG KILL KILL", publicly. Pingback_bot will give you a screened comment going, "Uh, yeah, this journal here just linked to this post. Just FYI." You then can go to the journal's moderator and ask them to take down the post or do a counter-snark.... thing.
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[User Picture]From: gi_janearng
2009-02-27 11:12 pm (UTC)

Re: From the News journal.

Why would you ask the mod to take down the post? The writer posted publicly which would assume the writer knew that meant everyone on the interbuttz could read what they are posting.
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[User Picture]From: bad
2009-02-27 11:10 pm (UTC)
DO I NEED TO MODIFY MY CUSTOM S2 LAYOUT STYLE TO MAKE PINGBACKS WORKS ??
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[User Picture]From: coffeechica
2009-02-27 11:18 pm (UTC)
No. You get a comment in your journal when you get a pingback, so it's same as any other comment you'd receive. (Just that it comes from an LJ bot.)
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[User Picture]From: aiwritingfic
2009-02-27 11:15 pm (UTC)
(Wonder if this works retroactively?) I think it's stupid that both the journal being tracked _AND_ the referring journal have to be Paid Users. I understand respecting the f-lock, so I have no problem with the requirement that the linking page be public. But to have both sides required to be paid accounts is going to severely limit actual use. Which may, of course, be the intention...
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[User Picture]From: marta
2009-02-27 11:16 pm (UTC)
Right now, it's only open for Paid Accounts, but that's mostly to limit the amount of initial strain on the system. As we're able, the intention is to make Pingbacks available to everyone.
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[User Picture]From: gwynethfar
2009-02-27 11:18 pm (UTC)
So, pingback_bot is the automated equivalent of the passive-aggressive "friend" who says, "So-and-so is talking about you. I just thought you should know," right?
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[User Picture]From: marta
2009-02-27 11:18 pm (UTC)
Exactly.
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[User Picture]From: ozqueen
2009-02-27 11:18 pm (UTC)
I'd rather more userpics and the ability to do the voice-posty thing here in Australia :p
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[User Picture]From: foreverbm
2009-02-28 12:02 am (UTC)
Yes! That is exactly what I would like as well!!!!
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[User Picture]From: bad
2009-02-27 11:23 pm (UTC)
what is the difference between lj_pingbackbot and pingback_bot ?
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[User Picture]From: robinhood
2009-02-27 11:23 pm (UTC)
Neat as these are, I'm wondering if there's been any progress on the whole 'Calling the Canadian voice post number and getting dropped after a minute' issue... It wouldn't be so bad if I could just call the number in the states (like I used to before we had a number up here, being that it's all LD for me anyways) but that's not an option anymore. It's been 'said' on the support area, of course, that this is being looked into but as this has been going on as long as it has, I'm inclined to doubt that.
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From: pir
2009-02-27 11:26 pm (UTC)
Why not use the message system to notify about linking (since it's a system for sending notifications) so you don't need to allow users to comment on your entries to receive information?
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[User Picture]From: rikes
2009-02-27 11:36 pm (UTC)
+1
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[User Picture]From: iknowitsmad
2009-02-27 11:33 pm (UTC)
Whatever, I actually like this.
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[User Picture]From: gabe_speaks
2009-03-01 01:58 am (UTC)
There's plenty of writers who, for instance, are writing original fiction and some would probably like to know who is recommending them or their story. Same with people writing more 'scholarly' and research-based work. They too would probably like to know who's linking others to their post[s].
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[User Picture]From: velshtein
2009-02-27 11:38 pm (UTC)
Nice.
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[User Picture]From: 427
2009-02-27 11:44 pm (UTC)

Re-Titling Username Question

Awesome-Sauce. Thanks for this! here's hoping it [the pingback] works, lol :)

Also - what is the reason for creating the retitling option? I don't understand the benefits.

Edited at 2009-02-27 11:56 pm (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: drusilla
2009-02-28 04:21 pm (UTC)

Re: Re-Titling Username Question

Where did you hear about the re-titling option? I've never heard of that!
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[User Picture]From: fangedsekhmet
2009-02-27 11:46 pm (UTC)
*whoosh* that's the sound of the explanation going over my head.

*waves* That's me not caring for whatever the feature does anyway.
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[User Picture]From: mantriddrone
2009-02-28 12:46 am (UTC)
+1
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[User Picture]From: schnee
2009-02-27 11:48 pm (UTC)
Cool, but why won't paid (and, I imagine, permanent) users get pingbacks if the user referencing their post does not have a paid/perm account? :) I can obviously understand restricting the feature itself to paid/perm users, but...
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[User Picture]From: matgb
2009-02-28 01:18 am (UTC)
Database load, we're testing it for them so they can get it to work for everyone.

Guess what, I learned this in a comment buried deep in the releases comm. Rather than it simply being at the top in the post like you'd expect given it's both an obvious question and something that isn't a paid account benefit as such.

Every time I think they've learnt...
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