Sounds ridiculous. I don't see the point.
Edited at 2009-02-27 10:54 pm (UTC)
I don't even UNDERSTAND it....and what is the point? >.
I guess Pingbacks would be useful if lots of people link to your journal entries and you want to keep track of it. I'd hadn't heard of it before. I probably won't be using it, but it sounds interesting.
It is a pratcial way to say thank you if you link to someone's post.
Say, if I mention your on my lj, you would know it - in a form of a new comment.
Similar thing was done for Wordpress - and it works just fine!
AND THE GRAND POINT IS ????
wait, there is none.
Couldn't workforce be devoted towards things that more users are asking for, like a la carte userpics and ongoing support issues? Don't Verizon customers have trouble using TxtLJ? And, not to mention the ever-annoying "hey-that's-not-my-userpic" issue...
THOUGH I WILL ADMIT, THIS USERNAME TITLING THING IS PRETTY HILARIOUS.
Edited at 2009-02-27 11:13 pm (UTC)
I love ZP! May I use the icon, with credit?
"your entry (as Paid user) is linked to by another (Paid) user. As long as both entries are public, and you have your comment settings set so that you can receive comments from all registered users"
that's an awful lot of restrictions.
The Paid user restriction will be removed when the feature is available to all users (which is the eventual plan
). The public entry restriction seems pretty logical; the system wouldn't ping about a link in a protected entry because that would be a violation of the privacy of whoever posted the entry (essentially revealing at least part of the entry's content). If the initial entry that's being pinged about is protected, the pingback bot won't be able to leave a comment on it (unless you add it as a Friend, obviously, which would just be another restriction, and one I'm sure people wouldn't be too happy about). And as for the comments - well, if commenting is disabled, the bot can't leave the pingback comment, which defeats the whole purpose.
I do like the idea of using the PM system instead
, though - that could avoid the commenting problem (though obviously you'd have to have PMs enabled instead, but I think most people probably do).
I thought you were kidding, until I looked at pingback_bot
's userinfo. Oi.
...I'm not understanding the point of pingbacks.
so if a paid user makes an ENTRY that links to another paid user's journal, pingback_bot alerts them? is that it?
...I'm not understanding why nobody gets the point of pingbacks.
Thanks, guys! I've been wondering when this was going to happen.
I get it; I guess it just doesn't make much sense to me unless you're aware that you're actively being linked elsewhere and just want to keep tabs.
2009-02-27 11:09 pm (UTC)
From the News journal.
Ever wondered who's linking to your posts in their journal or blog? We're introducing a new feature for Paid and Permanent Accounts that lets you track references to your posts using Pingbacks. Whenever someone links to one of your entries, you'll receive a notification in the form of a screened comment from [info]pingback_bot. Get the full scoop on Pingbacks here at [info]paidmembers and in the FAQ.
So basicially, its for those lovely moments where you find 2378472 random people flooding your comments with snark and dumb, Pingbot will tell you which other-journal your post was just linked to for whatever reason.
You post something, going along the lines of "Kenny Glenn is hot lol" in your journal. It is public. Someone sees this post, nerdrages, and posts it on their rather popular PETA-supporting livejournal going "WTFOMG KILL KILL", publicly. Pingback_bot will give you a screened comment going, "Uh, yeah, this journal here just linked to this post. Just FYI." You then can go to the journal's moderator and ask them to take down the post or do a counter-snark.... thing.
2009-02-27 11:12 pm (UTC)
Re: From the News journal.
Why would you ask the mod to take down the post? The writer posted publicly which would assume the writer knew that meant everyone on the interbuttz could read what they are posting.
2009-02-27 11:10 pm (UTC)
DO I NEED TO MODIFY MY CUSTOM S2 LAYOUT STYLE TO MAKE PINGBACKS WORKS ??
No. You get a comment in your journal when you get a pingback, so it's same as any other comment you'd receive. (Just that it comes from an LJ bot.)
(Wonder if this works retroactively?) I think it's stupid that both the journal being tracked _AND_ the referring journal have to be Paid Users. I understand respecting the f-lock, so I have no problem with the requirement that the linking page be public. But to have both sides required to be paid accounts is going to severely limit actual use. Which may, of course, be the intention...
Right now, it's only open for Paid Accounts, but that's mostly to limit the amount of initial strain on the system. As we're able, the intention is to make Pingbacks available to everyone.
is the automated equivalent of the passive-aggressive "friend" who says, "So-and-so is talking about you. I just thought you should know," right?
I'd rather more userpics and the ability to do the voice-posty thing here in Australia :p
Yes! That is exactly what I would like as well!!!!
2009-02-27 11:23 pm (UTC)
Neat as these are, I'm wondering if there's been any progress on the whole 'Calling the Canadian voice post number and getting dropped after a minute' issue... It wouldn't be so bad if I could just call the number in the states (like I used to before we had a number up here, being that it's all LD for me anyways) but that's not an option anymore. It's been 'said' on the support area, of course, that this is being looked into but as this has been going on as long as it has, I'm inclined to doubt that.
2009-02-27 11:26 pm (UTC)
Why not use the message system to notify about linking (since it's a system for sending notifications) so you don't need to allow users to comment on your entries to receive information?
Whatever, I actually like this.
There's plenty of writers who, for instance, are writing original fiction and some would probably like to know who is recommending them or their story. Same with people writing more 'scholarly' and research-based work. They too would probably like to know who's linking others to their post[s].
2009-02-27 11:44 pm (UTC)
Re-Titling Username Question
Awesome-Sauce. Thanks for this! here's hoping it [the pingback] works, lol :)
Also - what is the reason for creating the retitling option? I don't understand the benefits.
Edited at 2009-02-27 11:56 pm (UTC)
2009-02-28 04:21 pm (UTC)
Re: Re-Titling Username Question
Where did you hear about the re-titling option? I've never heard of that!
*whoosh* that's the sound of the explanation going over my head.
*waves* That's me not caring for whatever the feature does anyway.
Cool, but why won't paid (and, I imagine, permanent) users get pingbacks if the user referencing their post does not have a paid/perm account? :) I can obviously understand restricting the feature itself to paid/perm users, but...
Database load, we're testing it for them so they can get it to work for everyone.
Guess what, I learned this in a comment buried deep in the releases comm. Rather than it simply being at the top in the post like you'd expect given it's both an obvious question and something that isn't a paid account benefit as such.
Every time I think they've learnt...